The Lyme Dilemma - Part 3 - Dr. Kevin Conners | Conners Clinic

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(00:01) well hello again this is Dr. Kevin Conners is part three of bead chronic Lyme talking about the three phases of Lyme disease wonderful information so don’t have Lyme disease this might all be due to you if you do have Lyme disease this will be review hopefully alright so we talked about the acute stage last week and that many times it goes completely unnoticed so the initial infection can call completely unnoticed it you could move many times I have patients that come in that are in chronic stage or autoimmune

(00:45) stage lime and they’d ever they’d ever do it many times I have patients that have had libe that have had you know horrible debilitating symptoms for years and we discover it’s Lyme disease so I’ll pretty much guarantee that a large percentage of people with MS large percentage of people with ALS large percentage of people that have neurological symptoms neurological inflammation neurological disorders it can stem from Lyme disease so and that never even crosses their mind so there are people died from diseases of

(01:32) different names that actually had Lyme disease sad but true so we talked about that acute phase and that there is a window with that window of opportunity to kill it with an antibiotic is can be slim and it’s different for everybody so it might be good to know Al I’m letter a doctor in your area and develop a relationship with them even if you do not have Lyme so that you could use their services in case you have the symptoms we discussed again and I will reiterate my opinion is to is to use an antibiotic

(02:12) if you can communicate and have a relationship with a lime letter a doctor even if you have the symptoms during line season don’t wait for the tests the tests are highly inaccurate we’ll have a discussion just specifically on those in the future so you can’t wait for the tests so the second phase of line so the cute phase is the initial phase that’s phase 1 or stage 1 whatever you want to call it the second phase phase two stage two is called protocol embassies and people can stay on this chronic Lyme

(02:45) disease stage this phase two for years for decades so they made ever deuce move to stage three get the chronic Lyme disease stage it’s defined by my definition as when any bacteria goes intracellular so what Eddie bacteria goes inside the cell now it’s electronic life is a stage so you may have heard or maybe you or you know someone who was quote-unquote cured of live disease using antibiotics long term so they run antibiotics for four or five years and they feel like they really have the Lyme disease licked and they are you know

(03:28) that was ten years ago in there doing just fine that is true you can’t do that but the problem is is that once the Lyme disease goes intracellular antibiotics won’t work but it won’t work the anima want work on the bacteria that are intracellular but as soon as it goes extracellular tries to reproduce and make you very sick if you have circulated antibiotics at your system it will kill it so if you’re on antibiotics long term that is another way to deal with chronic Lyme disease because you soon as that bacteria goes extracellular

(04:04) you’re going to kill it with the antibiotics the negative about doing that is that antibiotics are so harmful to the rest of your body to go on then log term like that if you’re taking antibiotics on a 10-day phase that could be damaging to your gut taking it on a phase that you’re doing it over the course of years months or years it’s just horribly damaging to your gut so it’s not something that I would ever recommend but I understand that people are desperate they don’t know any other way

(04:35) to deal with it so but chronic Lyme disease is defined as the bacteria going intracellular so once it goes intracellular it can reproduce in the cell it could damage the cell itself and it can then go extracellular soon as the immune system is suppressed a little bit goes extracellular and starts to reproduce extracellular so a person typically has symptoms with Lyme disease that are Anjali need that means they’ll have some good taste and they’ll have bad day so they’ll have a little better day than I bad days it is really on the

(05:13) better day when their immune system is firing up to kill that bacteria that’s cleared and out of the extracellular spaces so they feel pretty good that day and then they’re good system suppresses as it’s constantly in this uproar of a fight against this this this insidious bacteria that it’s you have these undulating days and it’s it’s very confusing for the person in the chronic stage lime it has yet to go to phase three you could kill it with antibiotics so it is possible to or it is possible

(05:54) to use and antibacterials I mean some herbal antibacterials in order to kill the disease so using cat’s claw and different protocols by different practitioners that that are typically have a lot of different th1 stimulator so let me explain that so you have two sides of your immune system will get into this in the next presentation in depth but you have two sides of your immune system you have your initial response immune system your th1 response that is the response that will is the killer side so think of your th1

(06:31) response as the marine corps with machine guns so they’re out there looking for the enemy and they’re going kill the enemy the only thing the th1 response does is kill things so the th1 response doesn’t capture the enemy and bring it out of the body the th1 response doesn’t locate the enemy and make friends with it and try to communicate the th1 response kills it that’s all it does so you got the macrophage as the white blood cells all these different th ones cytokines and chemokines that their only role in life

(07:06) is to kill bad guys so when there’s a bad guy that enters your body AKA borrelia lyme disease your immune system will fire a th1 response in order to kill it bad thing about lyme disease again is that it’s very very late so it’s reproducing quickly your th1 response is trying to kill it can’t kill it right away so it fires a greater response a greater response of greater response heads you have symptoms of fever so a fever is a hyper th1 response you have swelling you have fatigue you have just you feel sick you have nausea

(07:42) you have all these symptoms of a hyper th1 response better what the antigen is so that thing which the th1 response is firing against is called it a attention so live disease is the antigen that we’re talking about if live disease hides inside the cell whether you’re th1 response can’t kill it that’s not a good thing so that’s where you need antibiotics to help knock this down so antibiotics are coming in there is a false th1 response but they kill that bacteria directly and the immune system

(08:16) thinks it killed it yay it wins so it goes back into normal and now your symptoms go away and you feel good in a chronic stage then that borrelia goes x intracellular outside of the space between the cell inside of the cell itself the European system is fire in a response can’t kill a kid kill it because it’s it’s not in the extracellular space anymore finally it suppresses down ed aetna borrelia O’s extracellular good starts reproducing making you sick the th1 response fires again so the purpose of taking a

(08:54) beautiful it’s like echinacea and garlic and astragalus and elderberry add you know on and on and on any abuse stimulus is to help the immune system and we’ll talk about the immune system we’re talking about the killer cells we’re helping the marine corps kill the antigen so the whole idea if you could think of it this way would you take abuse stimulants you are basically our bead the immune system so you are selling arms to the immune system in order for the immune system to have the capacity to kill the antigen well that’s

(09:39) a good thing right absolutely it’s a good thing if the if the disease is still in the chronic state that is a very good thing so a person that says I don’t know what your problem is Bob I had Lyme disease and I took cat’s claw for three weeks and then I took echinacea and it knocked it right out of me and bombs going well I did that I could I felt better for a couple days and it actually made me sicker and I still sick it and hear Bob’s in the stage three auto immune face but his Fred knocked it out completely with

(10:18) cat’s claw elderberry or whatever little you know AB you’d stimulant that he used the reason why he docked it out is that it was still in the chronic phase so imbued stimulants only work for Lyme disease in phase 2 saying that again bude stimulants th wood stimulants which is known as anything that would be considered a viewed statement all the betta Siddle mushrooms all the different herbs vitamin C garlic all the things that are supposed to boost your immune system you could google it are all T h1 stimulants they are giving support to

(11:08) the Marine Corps to kill the Lyme disease they will only work when you’re in phase 2 so phase two is chronic Lyme disease that’s going that has gone into a cellular therefore if you’re going to use an antibiotic approach it would have to be a very long term approach that would give you a lot of side effects you can use an abuse stimulate approach if it’s still in Phase two but once you move to phase three once it becomes an autoimmune disease you’re going to find out next week that you cannot use any

(11:49) immune stimulants and all because if you do use immune system uhlet’s and we’ll hit this hard and heavy next week you are healthy you are our abid your immune system that’s what immune systems stimulates do your army to be insist your immune system to kill your own tissue not a good thing so when when Bob could get better take it an immune stimulant it can’t figure out why his friend Sally can’t get better take an immune system Sally is probably already moved into Phase three Bob needs to stop

(12:29) being critical of Sally because bob was able to catch it at phase two so just because something worked for you doesn’t mean it’s going to work for someone else they may be in a different stage got that saying again an Edomite addicts work in phase would they can’t work in Phase two if you take a blown term but it has a whole lot of side effects immune stimulates work in Phase two they do not and you cannot use them in phase 3 because most likely as you learn next week you are th one dominant imbued

(13:06) stimulants work in phase two only in Phase two you could not take them in phase 3 or you will be helping your body destroy itself you might as well just take poison if that’s what you’re going to do sorry but that’s what it is you cannot use a mutant stimulants in phase 3 i’ll explain that again next week so hold your horses if this is all due to you listen to this again I understand that so here are some immune students this is a great imbued stimulant capsule see it’s got echinacea in there now green

(13:39) tea is a th2 stimulant we’ll talk about that but a stragglers th1 stimulant elderberry adda graphis immune enhancer that’s these are all th one stimulates goldenseal all these mushrooms cordyceps typically isn’t a th1 stimulant but should I talking about hockey Rishi and beta glucans are all th one stimulus you take those in phase three but you can’t take a mid phase two so again take hope treat chronic treat a cute lime in phase one with antibiotics as soon as possible if you do not get a fairly kidston

(14:18) relief of your symptoms probably miss the window or you’re not dealing with Lyme disease you’re not dealing with a bacteria if you know that you’re not yet in the automobile phase that’s phase three if you know you’re not yet did that phase three you could try taking them you’d stimulants so they’re great if you’re in the chronic phase i get if you don’t know what you’re doing make sure you call our office and you can talk to us i hope you learned something I know we’re going super fast but for

(14:49) most this is review for others it’s all do listen to it again see you next week.