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(00:02) hello Dr. Kevin Conners again this second presentation of lyme disease is going to be a little bit briefer than the first one and we’re talking about the three different phases of lyme disease so remember what i said last week is that there’s different authors that classify lyme disease differently so my classification of lyme disease is the acute phase that’s the phase that’s still treatable by antibiotics and it is uh when your the borrelia is still bloodborne or in the extracellular spaces it has yet to enter into
(00:48) the inside of the cell as soon as as soon as even one bacteria enters inside of a cell you have you have missed the acute phase you are now into the chronic phase in my classification so as a review lyme disease is carried by this little bugger right there i’ve had lyme disease twice the second time i had lyme disease i could not find the tick i never found the tick i never had a rash so i just got super super sick that second time that i had lyme disease and because i almost never get sick it reminded me so much of my previous lyme disease
(01:38) about 19 years previous to this time and uh but for the for the life of me i could not think that i had lyme disease i initially thought i have to have food poisoning i was traveling north to a second clinic i had in northern minnesota i it was early i think it was in march i hadn’t really been outside uh at that time i was living in the city it wasn’t exposed to any any um uh deer ticks at all uh i could not it didn’t even dawn on me that i had lyme disease for several days a bead really really sick i could i
(02:21) thought that this has to be food poisoning it didn’t act like the flu it uh it i i knew it wasn’t the flu i thought i just assumed that it was food poisoning i never ended up testing myself until it was probably four days into the process of you know just these waves of okay i’m feeling a little bit better too i am so sick i am puking my guts out sorry but i was just so extremely sick so i had i had on the severity of flu-like symptoms i had you know a very high severity of the flu-like symptoms i’ve had patients that
(03:01) never had never found a tick never had a rash and never remember having flu-like symptoms so during their acute stage of lyme disease they missed all the science so it’s just the way their body reacted the first time i had lyme disease i did find the tick i had a spot on my belly this was back oh my goodness this is back in 19 95 96 96ish and so lyme disease was was not very well known yet at that time and i i located the tick on my belly and there was literally a it was if you took a red lipstick container and you painted a
(03:57) bullseye rash um out about 12 inches from that spot on my belly and the tick was so small that when i picked it out with the tweezers i thought it was literally a a piece of pepper you could not see it with your naked eye i set it on a white piece of paper and took a little magnifying glass i remember having to call my kids over because it was just amazing oh my gosh look at this little creature it was just a nib of a deer tick and it was carrying borrelia because i got so unbelievably sick and i got antibiotics that that first
(04:40) time immediately and it just literally knocked it out the second time it took me again four or five days i can’t remember before i finally figured it out that i had lyme disease and i got antibiotics right away and it completely knocked it out so acute stage line is um when it is when the infection is still bloodborne or the infection is still extracellular now the the borrelia bacteria lives in this inner this intermediate host this deer tick and the deer tick that infects the human and this is what causes the borrelia now
(05:19) there are i mean i completely believe that your body is amazing and there are probably thousands and thousands hundreds of thousands of people maybe that are infected with the borrelia and their immune system kills it um before it ever causes an issue so it uh don’t overlook the ability of your immune system however if you’re firing a hyper th1 response that is going to be experienced with a fever and chills and and uh and feeling uh fatigue and all these flu-like symptoms that means your immune system is struggling and the chance of
(06:00) you killing it with an immune response is slim to none at that point now it’s beautiful if you have a rash but the majority of lyme patients that i talk about either say they never had a rash or they never noticed it i mean how many times maybe maybe it’s just me but i’m not inspecting my body on a daily basis so if you’re quite if you’re a male and you have a lot of body hair you’re not going to see it if you got bit in the head you’re not going to see a rash and many times you won’t have the rash
(06:31) like i said many patients that i’ve seen never even had any symptoms they don’t even recall even being sick so it’s uh but now they have all the symptoms of chronic lyme and testing them sure enough they do have chronic lyme or even in the autoimmune face so it’s uh it’s something you have to be if you live in a lime area it during the tick season you have to really be aware now if so i tell people if you get these type of symptoms of you know any type of neurological symptoms at all bell’s palsy um
(07:10) that’s facial paralysis of a cranial nerve any confusion forgetfulness if you just notice you’re just not with it as much anymore to these are more chronic symptoms but the more acute symptoms i tell people if you have any flu like symptoms you need to deal with it as if you have acute line so let’s put it this way if you live in a lyme area now if you live in an area where there’s hardly any lyme disease or you’ve never even heard of lyme disease and you could look at a statistical map to find this out
(07:50) if this if lyme disease is all new to you and you’re only listening to this presentation because somebody you know has lyme disease you probably don’t live in this in a huge lime area but anywhere in the north the whole eastern seaboard of the united states the um i’m in minnesota huge lime state wisconsin michigan lime states are uh and lyme disease is just rampant and it is lyme season it is tick season meaning the spring and summer and you have flu-like symptoms you have to bottom like you have to treat it as it
(08:25) is lyme so the the danger of you going in to your doctor and saying i feel like i got the flu i feel super sick i didn’t find any tick let’s pretend you didn’t find any tick no rash but you have the flu-like symptoms and if your doctor says well and you ask them do i have i want to know if i have lyme disease i should probably get an antibiotic and the doctor says well let’s run a lyme test you need to find another doctor because as we’re going to talk about in later presentations the tests for lyme
(08:59) disease are highly inaccurate so if if it’s circulating so remember any blood test any blood test at all they’re taking out a viable blood from your arm if that bacteria if the borrelia bacteria is not contained in that very specific vial of blood it’s going to be negative okay so the chance of it being contained in that violent blood in the acute stage line is is small you have about a 30 percent chance of it being positive some many statistics show that lyme acute lyme tests are seven you have a 70 chance of having a false negative
(09:48) that means it’s really positive but it reads as a negative so then you’re going to have a false sense that this wasn’t lyme it will continue you won’t get the antibiotics that you need it will continue on to chronic lyme and could end up with autoimmune lyme and i tell you i have seen so many debilitated patients that that wish they could go back and beat up their medical doctor who wouldn’t give him an antibiotic at stage one it’s unfortunate the the the lack of information that most doctors have
(10:22) so you have to find a limeliterate doctor that would treat you with your symptoms i’m sorry but i’m old enough to know that there was a day in medicine where the doctor would examine you and treat you via your symptoms based upon their wealth of knowledge of treat other people not based upon we got to run a ct and then we’ll make a decision we have to run a blood test then we’ll make a decision based upon what it says in merck manual so we have created a medical technician that we call a doctor these
(11:00) days unfortunately instead of them actually being a doctor and assessing the patient from a clinical point of view based upon their years of wisdom that they’ve had and that they’ve gained from other doctors that have preceded them so you need to find somebody who’s lyme literate they’ll say yes i’d rather treat your gut and fix your gut and then treat you with lyme disease three months down the road with a chronic lyme and have you deal with this for the next 10 years so i know there’s
(11:33) negative effects of doxycycline or amoxicillin i’m not an antibiotic giant antibiotic advocate for any other disorders i’d rather have if you even have a strep to to go through it so that you develop antibodies to that strep uh but for lyme disease that doesn’t hold it at all you have got to get an antibiotic right away so bottom line this is my opinion you need to take it to your doctor all right so my opinion is that if you have acute lyme symptoms of flu etc uh in lime season and you live in lime
(12:13) country you’re better off treating it with an antibiotic right away and how do you know if that was it honestly you if you jumped on the board and you felt super sick i got the flu or something and you took an antibiotic and you’d feel better right away if it was a viral flu and you took an antibiotic for three days it probably would not touch your symptoms at all you would have zero relief of your symptoms and then you could quit the animatic because you don’t need any more damage from the antibiotic because it’s not
(12:45) going to do you any good so you have to use some wisdom here and do some investigation but if you don’t catch acute stage line while it is still a bloodborne or extracellular the chance of it going intracellular is very very high and then we’re playing on a completely different ball field it’s a different game once we move from acute stage line to chronic stage two or autoimmune finally stage or phase three it’s a it’s a different disease it’s a completely different problem so if you ever know anybody that’s and
(13:26) has that disease you uh you need to feel for them because it’s a tough one so there’s a window of opportunity just literally a window that window of opportunity of being able to kill lyme disease in the acute phase is is literally a window once you have that one bacteria that goes into a cellular oh it’s over you might knock down all your symptoms with that antibiotic but that one bacteria is replicating within that one cell and within a few months all your symptoms can come back again they’ll be different symptoms they’ll be
(14:04) in that chronic stage so that window how big is that window how what’s the length of that window it’s different for everybody i’ve had patients where that window of opportunity was missed after two days so literally it could be missed after hours so once the borrelia goes into your body it could go intracellular immediately unfortunately most the time the window is as great as 30 days but maybe i shouldn’t have said mold stephen many of the times it’s as great as 30 days i’ve even seen people feel
(14:37) like they were cured they took an animatic 45 days after their initial symptoms and that was 10 years ago they’ve never had symptoms again so though their window of opportunity was greater but it really depends on your body it depends on your immune system it depends on the aggressiveness and the the virility of that borrelia that entered your body and how much of it did so it’s there’s just too many factors to estimate with that take home on this again is the same as last one treat acute phase lime as soon
(15:09) as possible with antibiotics now you have to go to your medical doctor to do that i’m just giving you my opinion so uh if you if you’re going to treat it with antibiotics then you have to go back to all the leaky gut slides and you got to heal your gut afterwards but i’d rather heal your gut afterwards than to be dealing with a chronic stage line and if you typically if you don’t get instant relief of your symptoms and what are the symptoms fever chill rash all these hyper th1 response symptoms if you
(15:40) don’t get instant relief of it you know you have either missed the window or it’s not mine maybe it isn’t maybe it’s a virus that you have but you’re still that prophylactic response is is much better than dealing with a chronic lyme again you can call our office for help at any time or visit our websites too all right talk to you soon we’ll get into the phase two next week.
Dustin has been passionate about holistic health since he met his wife, Dr Mallory Ranem (Conners) almost 20 years ago. As the Digital Media Manager, he coordinates content acrossย Conners Clinic’s large online presence, including written, video, and audio.
